The Emerson Avenger Lights A Candle Under U*U Asses. . .



A U*U minister who I respect and have never had any problems with says on his blog -

I’m acutely aware (maybe because my own mood has been so capricious lately) that this time of year can be incredibly hard. We may want to feel "joy to the world" but we also feel our losses so deeply. Grief in full measure can be what the holidays bring. So let’s be compassionate and make sure there is no pressure to be "merry," even as we welcome these winter holidays. The lights of Hanukkah, the Yule log, the candles of Advent…they all are reminders that even though it is a dark time of year, we can hold out hope for each other.

Light one candle this year for the people who are suffering, and let its light bring compassion to all and genuine peace on earth.

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It is a fine sentiment but, in light of just how uncompassionate most of the U*Us I know have proven themselves to be, I could not restrain myself from responding to his suggestion by submitting the following comment.

One Response to “The Shortest Day of the Year…”
on 21 Dec 2006 at 3:41 pm 1 Robin Edgar said …

Well I hate to have to say so Sean but as someone who has endured all kinds of insults, abuses, and injustices at the hands of outrageously hypocritical U*Us, right up to this very day. . . and who knows of plenty of other cases of U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy, if I light a candle it is going to be right under the ass of U*U hypocrites. I am pretty sure I did that yesterday in terms of an email communication that I cc’d to UUA President Bill Sinkford.

No offense is intended to you personally I have never had any problem with you but God knows that a great many of the U*Us I know apparently don’t know the meaning of the words justice, equity and compassion. As long as that remains so there will be no peace between me and outargeously hypocritical U*Us. Now I must head off to protest U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy in front of the Unitarian Church of Montreal.

I wish you a happy Winter Solstice and all the best for the New Year which starts right about now as far as I am concerned,

Robin Edgar

Comments

indrax said…
Does this Minister stand up for you?

I take note of your continued use of offensive religious terminology on the blog of this minister you respect.

P.S. You forgot to link to the blog.
(While I'm on the subject of updates, you should get into the habit of noting and dating any changes you make to your posts. If abused, retroactive changes and additions can be just as orwellian as deletions. I havn't seen you abuse it, but I'd prefer not to have an argument over it, and I'm sure you feel the same.)
Robin Edgar said…
e:Does this Minister stand up for you?

No this minister has not as yet stood up for me specifically but he has spoken out against other internal problems within the U*U religious community. I am of course somewhat disappointed by the fact that this minister has not stood up for me but not standing up for me is par for the course for pretty much every single U*U minister I know. . . To the best of my recollection this minister has never censored me or "memory holed" any of my posts, nor has he ever tried to discredit me with misinformation and disinformation as other U*U ministers have done. He has also never insulted me in any way to the best of my knowledge. In that this minister does not censor or suppress my legitimate criticism and dissent I consider this to be reasonably supportive of my cause.

:I take note of your continued use of offensive religious terminology on the blog of this minister you respect.

I don't see any offensive religious terminology in my post indrax. Please do tell everyone just what "offensive religious terminology" you are referring to here. . .

:P.S. You forgot to link to the blog.

Wrong. I did not forget to link to it at all. I chose not to as I did not want to facilitate the efforts of one or two U*U trolls I happen to know. . .

:(While I'm on the subject of updates, you should get into the habit of noting and dating any changes you make to your posts.

Sorry indrax but I am not going to get into the habit of noting and dating any changes I make to my posts. Changes are absolutely minimal and mainly consist of correcting spelling mistakes and other typos. In a few cases I have posts that "evolve" over a few hours or in rare cases a few days. I usually say so if that is the case. If I add new information I usually indicatte that it is an update.

:If abused, retroactive changes and additions can be just as orwellian as deletions. I havn't seen you abuse it, but I'd prefer not to have an argument over it, and I'm sure you feel the same.)

Oh I certainly agree that retroactive changes and additions can be just as Orwellian as deletions but like you said I do not abuse that practice, in fact I have even made a point of not deleting any comments that contain simple errors. The people who engage in the Orwellian practice of deleting and "memory holing" of comments, and even whole posts. . . are a goodly number of your outrageously hypocritical U*U pals like Peacebang aka Rev. Victoria Weinstein, Errant Frogs aka Bret Lortie, Philocrites aka Chris Walton, Executive Editor of the U*U World magazine, and no shortage of other "memory holing" U*Us. . . Why is it that you have the gall to self-righteously caution me against an Orwellian practice that I don't engage in while not saying boo about the fact that plenty of U*U bloggers do in fact engage in plenty of Orwellian "memory holing" of comments and even whole posts? Other than being a two-faced hypocrite of a DIM Thinking U*U troll of course. . . Why don't you go and sanctimoniously caution all those U*U bloggers that I have named and other U*U bloggers that engage in such Orwellian practices, to say nothing of the U*UA, U*U listserves, and U*U "churches" that censor and suppress and "memory hole" online criticism and dissent. Oh dear I almost forgot that you engage in Orwellian "memory holing" deletion of legitimate criticism and dissent yourself by pretending that my legitimate commentary is nothing but SPAM as you did in this thread not so terribly long ago. . . N'est-ce pas indrax? What an outrageously two-faced U*U hypocrite you are indrax. . . Your hypocritical double-standards are glaringly obvious to anyone with a modicum of intelligence and conscience. Thanks for once again proving what an idiot you are and providing me with the dubious privilege of arguing with an idiot. Thanks also for providing this opportunity to light a candle under a hypocritical U*U. . .
indrax said…
"U*U"

If I add new information I usually indicatte that it is an update.

That's really all I was looking for. It was the 'evolving' posts that had concerned me. I didn't realize that you intended to only do it over a few days. Perhaps then something to indicate that a post is 'finished'?


You need to stop lying and running away.

Why did you take my words out of context?
indrax said…
link.
It's sad that you refuse provide information just for the sake of refusing. It's also interesting that you decide not to 'facilitate trolls' After I participated on Bwana's thread.

Nobody stands up for you Robin.

And, backing up, I do think it's sad that you are so hurt that you can't respond to his post's intent. You can't step back an light a candle for people who are suffering, even yourself. You take your pain and light a candle under people.
Often not even the people who wronged you.

(Did you actually protest at the UCM Thursday evening, or was that creative license?)
Robin Edgar said…
Yes I did protest at the Unitarian "Church" of Montreal Thursday night indrax, and I even have an interesting story to tell about that protest but it will have to wait a bit. It has become something of a tradition for me to protest at the Unitarian Church of Montreal's winter solstice ceremony in light of the fact that former UCM President Frank Greene madea "joke" that snidely insinuated a link between Creation Day and the notorious Solar Temple suicide cult.

There is virtually no "creative license" on this blog about factual matters, especially when I am reporting about something I said or did or something others said or did. All such reports are very truthful and very accurate. AFAIAC Your crack about "creative licence" is part and parcel of your lame, ineffectual, and often quite ridiculous attempts to discredit me and cast doubt on my claims.

It's sad that you refuse provide information just for the sake of refusing. It's also interesting that you decide not to 'facilitate trolls' After I participated on Bwana's thread.

:Nobody stands up for you Robin.

Wrong indrax. All kinds of people express support for my cause on an ongoing and regular basis. Earlier today I received plenty of public affirmation for my cause as I protested in front of the Quebec Human Rights Commission Offices as you will read when I post about today's protest in the coming hour or two. Why I even waste time responding to your DIM Thinking comments first is beyond me. I really should reassess my priorities. . . If it is true that *nobody* within the U*U "religious community" stands up that says more about DIM Thinking U*Us than anything else but the fact of the matter is that at least a few U*Us have stood up for me and a few still do. . . I guess that they are rthe exceptions that prove the rule of U*U Denial, Ignorance and Minimization of the legitimacy and seriousness of my grievances arising from glaringly obvious U*U injustices, U*U abuses, and outrageous U*U hypocrisy. . .

:And, backing up, I do think it's sad that you are so hurt that you can't respond to his post's intent.

:You can't step back an light a candle for people who are suffering, even yourself.

Actually when I light a candle under U*U asses I *am* lighting a candle for people who are suffering as a result of U*U injustices, U*U abuses, and U*U hypocrisy and not just myself by any means indrax. . .

:You take your pain and light a candle under people.

Isn't that exactly what I said I was doing indrax?

:Often not even the people who wronged you.

Wrong indrax. If I lght a candle under the ass of any particular U*U they have either wronged me or they are guilty of injustices, abuses, and hypocrisy or just plain stupidity that has wronged someone else.
Robin Edgar said…
BTW indrax the more you SPAM me the more I miss stuff to respond to and the more I decide that you are just wasting my time and distracting from the core issues here. I am definitely going to create an 'Arguing With indrax' thread just for oh so special you just to be able to keep track of things, and to deal with your trolling and repeated SPAMMING of my posts. Quite frankly you should be thankful that I don't call it the 'Arguing With An Idiot' thread but, since there are at least one or two other DIM Thinking U*U idiots posting comments here from time to time, I will probably be obliged to creat an additional thread devoted to 'Arguing With Idiots' down the road a bit. Ah what the heck, I might as well get it over with and keep any arguing with indrax and other idiots in pretty much the same location on this blog. . .
indrax said…
Your crack about "creative licence" is part and parcel of your lame, ineffectual, and often quite ridiculous attempts to discredit me and cast doubt on my claims.
Uh, no it wasn't. It wasn't even a crack. I didn't think you were lying about that, but I wasn't sure if you were being literal or not.

You need to stop lying and running away.

Why did you take my words out of context?
Robin Edgar said…
I'm not in fact lying and I am hardly running away as you so repeatedly and quite ridiculously claim in your SPAM comments. You may believe that you are some kind of knight in shining armour defending the dubious honour of your beloved U*U "religious community" but, quite frankly, I am reasonably confident that most people reading your posts here will agree that you are little more than an ankle biting troll who is in reality much closer to being this ankle biting knight than an effective "champion" of U*Us world-wide.

I simply have much better things to do with my time right now than answer to your inane comments and questions, especially as I have already wasted rather too much of my time answering to rather too much of your recent SPAMMING. This is the last time that I will respond to you in any Emerson Avenger blog thread other than this special 'Arguing With indrax' thread that you have compelled me to create for oh so special you as a direct result of your incessant trolling and SPAMMING of my serious posts.
indrax said…
Promises Promises

You've promised many times you would answer my questions, only to let the thread die.

You've said you wouldn't respond to me anymore before, too.

Frankly, I think you lack the mental discipline.
Robin Edgar said…
indrax's lame accusations and arguments here have been responded to oon the 'Arguing With indrax' thread that is linked to in a previous comment here. All arguing with indrax will be limited to that single thread in order to deal with his incessant trolling and SPAMMING of The Emerson Avenger blog and just plain keep track of what has been said. Future comments from indrax will not be responded to if he posts them in other threads and I am debating various ways of dealing with the indrax troll. I will be demanding that indrax identify himself as revealing his "real life" identity may cause indrax to modify his trolling and SPAMMING behaviour once his actual identity is associated with his DIM Thinking "wild*ass statements" If indrax refuses to identify himself this will say a lot about indrax and will further diminish his already quite minimal credibility.
James Andrix said…
Before Robin became a censor, he said:

...I do believe that neither you nor Anonymous U*U from Montreal nor a variety of other U*U bloggers [...] would make some of the wild*ass statements you make if you could be held accountable for making them.

I guess that's another thing you're wrong about.

Have a nice month indrax. I know I will.

And that's another.

Now can you stop hiding from my questions?
Robin Edgar said…
Well indrax aka James Andrix decided to add another week to the temporary suspension of his posting privileges that I was forced to impose as a result of his incessant off-topic SPAMMING. Normally this post would be relegated to the U*U Hole that I was forced to create to deal with excessive SPAM comments and other dross but I will let this comment stand as an object lesson.

I guess indrax may be right. If James Andrix is in fact the real life identity of the indrax troll he apparently is prepared to attach his real name to all the wild*ass statements that he has made under the indrax pseudonym. Of course it is not out of the question that James Andrix is just another pseudonym for the indrax troll. Considering that James Andrix was, and in many ways still is. . . an amoralist I would not put it past him to present James Andrix as his real name even though it might well be just another pseudonym. I will give him the benfit of the doubt for now but will not be engaging with him until late March at the earliest anyway as a result of his SPAMMING activities and his defiance of my quite lenient one month suspension of his posting privileges or perhaps I should say his trolling and SPAMMING activities.

Apparently indrax aka James Andrix thinks I won't have a very nice month. I wonder why?
Robin Edgar said…
OK so I had a bad cough in January. Did I miss something?