The Emerson Avenger

The Emerson Avenger is a "memory hole" free blog where censorship is scorned. This blog will "guard the right to know" about any injustices and abuses that corrupt Unitarian Universalism. Posters may speak and argue freely, according to conscience, about any injustices and abuses, or indeed hypocrisy, that they may know about so that the Avenger, in the form of justice and redress, may come surely and swiftly. . . "Slowly, slowly the Avenger comes, but comes surely." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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In 1992 I underwent a profound revelatory experience of God which revealed that the total solar eclipse "Eye of God" is a "Sign in the Heavens" that symbolizes God's divine omniscience. You may read about what Rev. Ray Drennan of the Unitarian Church of Montreal contemptuously dismissed as my "psychotic experience" here: http://revelationisnotsealed.homestead.com - This revelatory religious experience inspired me to propose an inter-religious celebration of Creation that would take place whenever a total solar eclipse took place over our planet. You may read about what Rev. Ray Drennan and other leading members of the Unitarian Church of Montreal falsely and maliciously labeled as a "cult" here: http://creationday.homestead.com - I am now an excommunicated Unitarian whose "alternative spiritual practice" includes publicly exposing and denouncing Unitarian*Universalist injustices, abuses, and hypocrisy. The Emerson Avenger blog will serve that purpose for me and hopefully others will share their concerns here. Dee Miller's term DIM Thinking is used frequently and appropriately on this blog. You may read more about what DIM Thinking is here - http://www.takecourage.org/defining.htm

Tuesday, December 19, 2006

The Emerson Avenger Concurs With Malcom X On Brotherhood. . .

"I believe in the brotherhood of all men,
but I don't believe in wasting brotherhood
on anyone who doesn't want to practice it
with me. . .

Brotherhood is a two-way street."

Malcom X
(Al - Hajj Malik El - Shabazz)
(1925-1965)

25 Comments:

Blogger indrax said...

So why are you trying to bully your way into a church that has obviously found your brotherhood lacking?

Why won't you confess to your lies, and your deceptively taking words out of context? Why did you lie?

Why did you take my words out of context Robin?

Why do you practice bortherhood so poorly with people trying to help you? Why do you reject brotherhood outright over petty disagrements?

Why didn't you answer my questions about your post mentioning the caretaker job? When did the job open? Who got it? Why not you?

Are you going to answer my questions, or are you going to evade them?

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 11:29:00 am  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

Well indrax is really going out of his way to establish his credentials as a DIM Thinking U*U idiot extraordinaire here. . .

:So why are you trying to bully your way into a church that has obviously found your brotherhood lacking?

The last time I checked the Board and congregation of the Unitarian "Church" of Montreal unjustly, unequitably and uncompassionately bullied me out of their alleged "church" for peacefully protesting against the fact that it's fundamentalist atheist bigot of a minister Rev. Ray Drennan, it's fundamentalist athiest bigot of a Board President Frank Greene, and other "like-minded" intolerant and abusive U*Us, had bullied me by labeling me "psychotic", "crazy", a "nutcase" etc. etc. ad nauseum and falsely and maliciously labeling Creation Day as a "cult" and even going so for as snidely insinuating a possible link between Creation Day and that notorious Solar Temple suicide cult.

As Malcom X says, brotherhood is a two-way street. . . It is abundantly obvious that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, John Inder and no shortage of other U*Us, including pretty much the whole congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal have not only abjectly failed to practice anything even remotely resembling genuine brotherhood with me but have even obstinately refused to practice brotherhood with me for over a decade now.

:Why won't you confess to your lies,

What "lies" indrax? You are the only person accusing me of "lies" and I have already shown that what you characterize as "lies" is open to considerable question and even if there were one or two things I said that could be justifiably characterized as "lies" they are such minor and inconsequential "lies" as to pale in comparison to the outrageous harmful and damaging lies told by U*Us. When are U*Us going to confess to their outrageous lies indrax including, but by no means limited to the slanderous and damaging lies that I am "psychotic" "crazy" or otherwise "mentally unstable", that Creation Day is a "cult", that I was involved in some kind of "chair throwing incident" etc. etc. etc. ad nauseum?

:and your deceptively taking words out of context?

I did not *deceptively* take words out of context indrax. I have already argued that matter repreatedly and will not waste any further time on it now. I will say however that I can just as easily accuse you of deceptively taking words out of context in terms of your original idiotic question "What was said?" of December 16th last year. You took the "snippets" out of their abundant context in numerous internet posts yourself and then had the utter gall to pretend that they lacked context. That was and still is *deceptive* indrax because plenty of context was provided in the various internet posts that you took the snippets from. You also deceptively took words out of context in the last day or so in terms of your comment regarding the post about me by Beantown Bwana. N'est-ce pas indrax?

:Why did you lie?

I am very confident that most people who would take the time to responsibly examine your accusations that I am lying would agree that did not in fact "lie" about anything indrax. I expect however that few people will bother to do so since your status as a DIM Thinking U*U troll with absolutely minimal credibility is now very well established here to say nothing of elsewhere on the internet. . .

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no fooling around indrax. . .

:Why did you take my words out of context Robin?

Why did you take my words out of context over a year ago and then pretend that they lacked context indrax? Why did you take Beantown Bwana's words out of context in your recent DIM Thinking attempt to pretend that his recent post about me was not supportive?

:Why do you practice bortherhood so poorly with people trying to help you?

Sorry indrax but anyone who bothers to examine our relationship will see that your own self-proclaimed "friendship" aka "brotherhood" was open to considerable question months ago if not over a year ago.

:Why do you reject brotherhood outright over petty disagrements?

I could be mistaken indrax but I believe that you have it ass-backwards aka U*U-backwards. I do believe that it was you who officially withdrew your alleged friendship a while back over what are indeed "petty disagreements" as I have been saying all along. . .

:Why didn't you answer my questions about your post mentioning the caretaker job?

I already told you why indrax so you are either being quite diningenuous in asking that question or you have a terrible memory. Those questions are of minimal relevance to my much more serious complaints about U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy and that issue has been dealt with elsewhere on the internet already.

:When did the job open? Who got it? Why not you?

Irrelevant to my main concerns indrax. I already told you that I would not waste time answering this questions that serve only to distract attention away from the main issues.

:Are you going to answer my questions, or are you going to evade them?

I have aready told you that I am in no way obliged to answer questions that I consider to be stupid, irrelevant, or distractions from the main issues at hand idrax. In fact I have some reason to believe that you may be knowingly and willfully attempting to divert attention away from the much more serious main issues of concern by repeatedly asking such distracting questions.

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:57:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

What "lies" indrax?

And you complain about my questions.
You said you answered my question you did not. If you did, link it. You are a liar.
You said you were not evasive. I spent months trying to get you to give me basic information. You are a liar.

they are such minor and inconsequential "lies"

No, they are not. You cannot lie about how you have treated a person, insult them, and pretend that the lies are inconsequential.

I did not *deceptively* take words out of context indrax.

Yes you did, this is a lie.

I have already argued that matter repreatedly and will not waste any further time on it now.
No, you ignore it every time I bring it up. I asked for full sentences, and you pick my words apart to make it look like I didn't.


You took the "snippets" out of their abundant context in numerous internet posts yourself

Acutally, I believe I took those snippets out of only the one letter, which had little to no context.

But I think it's great that you suposedly answered the question even though it was so stupid and DIM thinking. Could you link to your answer? No? Liar.

Why did you take Beantown Bwana's words out of context in your recent DIM Thinking attempt to pretend that his recent post about me was not supportive?

I said that he was not standing up for you. As I said, he seems abivalent at best. I maintained the in-context meaning of everything I quoted. He said some positive things about you and some negative things about you. He said some things about you that have caused you to label other people as DIM thinking.
He gave no indication that he would do anything to stand up for you in any way. He said he wouldn't revisit the issue on his blog, and he said he wasn't going to talk about it with other UU's at this time.
Where is the standing up? He posted about you and posted that he's not doing anything for you.

I think you need to ask some of you 'supporters' to actually do something. I expect when you show your true colors you will lose much of their empathy.

I do believe that it was you who officially withdrew your alleged friendship a while back over what are indeed "petty disagreements" as I have been saying all along. . .


Not quite. I asked you if you wanted my help, and you didn't. You made it clear that you had no interest in brotherhood, fellowship, or anything else. This is not an uncommon pattern with you. I recall urging you to try to win over anonymousUU, and you said something to the effect of you didn't need to win over UU's like him. When people disagree with you, you dismiss them. (Though I'll grant you that he didn't want anything to do with you either.)

Those questions are of minimal relevance to my much more serious complaints about U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy and that issue has been dealt with elsewhere on the internet already.

That's funny, because you 'already told me' that it was irrelevant to the thread, which is clearly incorrect, since you mentioned it in the parent post for the first time ever one this blog.
May I assume that that was a mistake?


Why did you take my words out of context over a year ago and then pretend that they lacked context indrax?

You evaded my question Robin.

Why did you take my words out of context Robin?

I'm not sure I had any of the context a year ago. I know at the time I was trying to encourage you to prenet your case simply and cleary in a single authoritative location, which you still haven't done.

Irrelevant to my main concerns indrax. I already told you that I would not waste time answering this questions that serve only to distract attention away from the main issues.

WHY ARE YOU COVERING UP THESE UU INJUSTICES?!?
Seriously, you cover lots of things that diverge from your main complaints all time. Why are you unwilling to answer these questions?
And for the record, they are entirely relevant to your complaints against the UCM, as it goes to motive.

I have aready told you that I am in no way obliged to answer questions that I consider to be stupid, irrelevant, or distractions from the main issues at hand idrax.

Is that why you didn't answer my question of December 16, 2005?

In fact I have some reason to believe that you may be knowingly and willfully attempting to divert attention away from the much more serious main issues of concern by repeatedly asking such distracting questions.

That's funny, because this is all about the fact that you wouldn't answer my simple questions that pretained directly to the core of your complaints. You might want to say that you have more serious complaints against the UCM and the UUA in general, but remember that you are right now refusing to answer very simple questions about Frank Greene, and your claimed discrimination.
I am not trying to cover up anything Robin. I am asking questions that you won't answer, and that's been the problem since the beginning. As I said, this would have been a lot easier if you'd answered the question a year ago.

Something like this would have been nice:
"You mean your psychotic experience."
"You mean your cult."
I don't remember the exact sentence for the other two.


But you evaded that question.

And yes, I probably would have pressed you for more context than that, but at least you would have answered, and been open. We might have ben able to go forward from there.
But instead you gave me no response. You link now to a post I made in February, Do you think maybe I was pressing for answers to the questions you chose to ignore since December? How do you think it felt to offer someone help, for him to promise to answer your questions, and then to be ignored.
And then you have the audacity to lie and say that you answered, and that you were not evasive. No Robin, my memory is better than that.

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 6:49:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

...And you ignore this post too.

Stop running away Robin.

At least stand up for yourself.

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:06:00 am  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

lobhncpMore online evidence of the DIM Thinking idiocy of the indrax troll. Just because I don't respond immediately to a post does not mean I am completely ignoring it. OTOH I may well ignore posts that are little more than the ranting of an idiot that I decide to be unworthy of arguing with. . . I am not "running away" from anything and very soon will be running over to the offices of the Quebec Human Rights Commission to conduct my lunch-hour protest. Clearly I have better things to do with my time right now than to respond to indrax's DIM thinking rantings here. It is abundantly obvious to most people that I can and do stand up for myself on a regular and ongoing basis. indrax quite obviously greatly exaggerates the significance and importance of his DIM Thinking rant here by expecting an immediate response to it. I must get around to creating that thread dedicated exclusively to arguing with idiots or indeed indrax alone. . .

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:32:00 am  
Blogger indrax said...

So you were planning to respond to that post directly, or not?

'Cause you responded to several other posts last night, and left this one. And you have a pattern of letting threads die, so you can ignore the points I make without ever really adressing them.

So yeah, I figured you had decided to leave this one.

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 11:49:00 am  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

You're too funny indrax. If anyone has "a pattern of letting threads die" it is you. You ignore many of the very valid points that I make without ever really adressing them. Anyone can see that by reviewing older threads. In fact that is probably one of the main reasons that you keep repeatedly trolling and spamming most of my new threads rather than sticking to the threads on which I have already responded responded to your statements and ridiculous accusations. You repost the same lame arguments and accusations in new threads because you don't want people to see that I already blew them out of the water on earlier threads. I have better things to do with my time than respond to every single stupid question or ridiculous accusation that you make, especially when more often than not they have been already been more than adequately responded to in previous threads. In fact, as a result of your repetitive spamming of new threads I am going to create a thread that is exclusively dedicated to arguing with you. I will not allow you to continually SPAM my new threads with questions and accusations that have already been done to death on older threads.

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:07:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

On the contrary, I repost my questions because you seldom answer them the first time.

Why did you take my words out of context Robin?

I would love for you to highlight this pattern of letting threads die.

When and where did you answer my question of a year ago?

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 3:21:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

I would love for you to highlight this pattern of letting threads die.

You know I decided to look back myself on past thread from November and December.
I looked at posts where we discussed your lying, and I looked to see which of us had the most recent substantial comment.
Out of 8 threads, you left me hanging on 7. In two months.
No wonder I have to repeat myself.
If you think my criteria are sketchy, do the numbers yourself.

As an added bonus of digging through the archive, I found this:

:Then why didn't you answer my questions of December 16, 2005. specifically asking for full sentence quotes.

Because you already had more than enough information available to you indrax and that is what I have being telling you all along.

From here on in if you post off topic I will ignore those posts.


I think that is quite illustrative.
Are you sure you weren't evasive? Are you sure you answered my question a year ago? are you sure you don't have a pattern of letting threads die?

In one post you say you answered, in another you explain why you didn't.

But you never just link to the answer.

Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:59:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

Another day comes and goes without an answer to the question in bold at the top of the page.

I'll tell you what Robin, I'll save you the trouble of creating a special thread for me. I'll make a stand right here.

Happy Solstice!

Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:38:00 am  
Blogger indrax said...

Another day filled with posts that let Robin Run away

Take a stand.

Or better: Listen to your Father.

Friday, December 22, 2006 12:55:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

:Another day filled with posts that let Robin Run away

Wrong indrax. I am not running away as you allege. Most intellignent people will agree that I have already provided far more attention that you deserve. I am just setting reasonable priorities and the new posts about my newly started protest outside of the offices of the Quebec Human Rights Commission take priority over further useless arguing with an idiot.

:Make a stand.

The last time I checked I have been making a stand for over a decade now and most recently I am making a very significant, very public and hopefully very productive stand right in front of the offices of the Quebec Human Rights Commission. N'est-ce pas indrax?

:Or better: Listen to your Father.

There goes the DIM Thinking indrax troll pathetically grasping at straws again. . .

Just what do you want me to listen to indrax?

Please remind me and everyone else reading this thread.

Then tell me why you believe that I should listen to whatever it was that my father said.

Allow me to graciously forewarn you that no matter how you answer to these questions you will be setting yourself up for yet another fall, and a fairly significant one at that.

BTW I can't help but notice that you capitalized the word 'father'. Is that some kind of Freudian slip indrax? Care to explain why you capitalized 'father'?

Friday, December 22, 2006 4:24:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

You still haven't answered the question in bold at the top of the thread. You are still running from it.

If I'm not mistaken, your father said you should 'stop kicking people in the balls'.

Friday, December 22, 2006 6:05:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

Very good indrax. That is close enough to what he said if not an exact quote. Now please be so kind as to tell me *why* you believe that I should listen to whatever it was that my father said but do it the official 'Arguing With Indrax' thread that I was compelled to create to deal with your repetitive trolling and SPAMMING.

:You still haven't answered the question in bold at the top of the thread. You are still running from it.

Not at all indrax. I just have much better things to do with my time right now than answer that particular question that is about a comparatively trivial matter. I will eventually get around to answering it on this special thread that I was compelled to create just for oh so special you as a result of your incessant trolling and SPAMMING of The Emerson Avenger blog. Any future comments or questions from you must be posted to that special 'Arguing With indrax' thread. Comments and questions that you make elsewhere on this blog will not be responded to period. If you want *any* response from me at all you will have to post your comment or question in the 'Arguing With indrax' thread. It will be up to you to identify which thread your comment or question refers to, feel free to provide as much context as you want to by copying and pasting pertinent parts of those threads that you are responding to.

Friday, December 22, 2006 6:25:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

Promises Promises

You've promised many times you would answer my questions, only to let the thread die.

You've said you wouldn't respond to me anymore before, too.

Frankly, I think you lack the mental discipline.

I however, will continue to make a stand here.

Friday, December 22, 2006 7:09:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

ROTFLMU*UO The chronically disorganized indrax troll is accusing me of lacking mental discipline. Speak for yourself indrax. . . I may well lack a certain amount of mental discipline. I may even willfully decide that I am not particularly interested in "mental discipline" preferring instead a high degree of flexibility and adaptability. But anyone comparing my words and actions to yours will agree that I have rather more "mental discipline" than the indrax troll who can't even properly organize his seriously messed up The Truth About Robin Edgar blog. I would suggest that you spend significantly less time trolling and SPAMMING me here and devote some hours to properly organizing your own far from disciplined blog that doesn't even place documents in their correct sequential order so that people can read them in their proper *context* indrax. You can start telling the real truth about Robin Edgar, to say nothing of the real truth about the grossly negligent and effectively complicit response of the UUA and its Ministerial Fellowship Committee to my serious grievances, by presenting all of the correspondence between me and Rev. John Buehrens and Rev. Diane Miller in correct sequential order. You have quite evidently lacked the "mental discipline" to do this, and other proper organization of available documents, for months now.

Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:40:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

Promises Promises

Tuesday, December 26, 2006 3:37:00 pm  
Blogger indrax said...

I'm still waiting for you to tell me when you answered my question.

Perhaps you should consult my timeline.

Wednesday, December 27, 2006 9:04:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

Perhaps you should hold your breath a little bit longer indrax. I am quite sure I made it clear that I expect you to limit your trolling and SPAMMING to the 'Arguing With indrax' thread. If you continue to SPAM the majority of my threads I will be forced to impose sanctions to prevent you and indeed other anonymous posters from SPAMMING this blog.

Thursday, December 28, 2006 12:52:00 am  
Blogger indrax said...

I am quite sure I made it clear that I was taking a stand here.

At least you've well established that you still think you have the right to out bloggers because they criticize you.

If I hold my breath longer, will you link to the answer?

Thursday, December 28, 2006 7:23:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

:I am quite sure I made it clear that I was taking a stand here.

Indeed you did but I guess that was something of a lie since you then proceeded to SPAM several of my other posts. As a result of your incessant SPAM and your refusal to associate your real name with your DIM Thinking SPAM posts you are disallowed from posting here for one month. If you violate that quite lenient temporary suspension of your posting privileges you will have the suspension extended by one week for each post that violates the suspension.

:At least you've well established that you still think you have the right to out bloggers because they criticize you.

I and other people have the right to "out" anonymous bloggers for any number of reasons indrax. The only blogger that I have actually "outed" so far is Rev. Victoria Weinstein who insulted and defamed me, and a variety of other people, on her pseudonymous Peacebang blog. The fact of the matter however is that it was Peacebang's outrageous hypocrisy in stridently criticizing Catholics about sexual abuse at a time when one of her own parishioners was convicted of raping his preteen neighbor's daughter and a preteen "female family member"who apparently was not his daughter that caused me to decide to out Peacebang as Rev. Victoria Weinstein. I could have justifiably "outed" Peacebang as
Rev. Victoria Weinstein over a year ago if it was only because of insulting and defaming me alone. . .

:If I hold my breath longer, will you link to the answer?

Nope. I do not feel obliged to feed trolls indrax and will not waste my time linking to things for you, especially since you will not be posting here for a month or so effective immediately.

Friday, December 29, 2006 4:08:00 am  
Blogger James Andrix said...

I'm still standing, and you're still hiding.

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 12:01:00 am  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

Well I hope that James Andrix aka indrax feels that that SPAM comment made in clear violation of the temporary suspension of his posting privileges to The Emerson Avenger blog was worth an extension of the suspension by another week. Pretty soon indrax will be an April Fool in January if he keeps violating what began as a fairly lenient one month suspension but is now heading towards three months as a result of his continued SPAMMING of this blog. I am very confident that most people will agree that indrax aka James Andrix hardly has a leg to stand on and that I am hardly hiding from anything.

Tuesday, January 02, 2007 2:33:00 pm  
Blogger James Andrix said...

Still Standing.

If you're not hiding, Where are you?

There are standing questions that you've had months to answer.

Monday, April 30, 2007 11:53:00 pm  
Blogger Robin Edgar said...

As I recall almost all of your "standing questions" were answered months ago. Sometimes several times over as a result of your repeated badgering. . . Any unanswered questions probably aren't worthy of a response but feel free to ask them once again in appropriate threads and I will decide whether or not they bear answering. If I consider your questions to be repeats of questions that have already been answered to in the past I will simply say that they have already been answered to however. I will not waste my time trying to find exactly where they have been answered to or provide links to where they have already been answered to as you have demanded in the past. If you engage in off-topic SPAMMING your SPAM post will be relegated to the U*U Hole. . .

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:47:00 am  

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