The Emerson Avenger

The Emerson Avenger is a "memory hole" free blog where censorship is scorned. This blog will "guard the right to know" about any injustices and abuses that corrupt Unitarian Universalism. Posters may speak and argue freely, according to conscience, about any injustices and abuses, or indeed hypocrisy, that they may know about so that the Avenger, in the form of justice and redress, may come surely and swiftly. . . "Slowly, slowly the Avenger comes, but comes surely." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

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In 1992 I underwent a profound revelatory experience of God which revealed that the total solar eclipse "Eye of God" is a "Sign in the Heavens" that symbolizes God's divine omniscience. You may read about what Rev. Ray Drennan of the Unitarian Church of Montreal contemptuously dismissed as my "psychotic experience" here: http://revelationisnotsealed.homestead.com - This revelatory religious experience inspired me to propose an inter-religious celebration of Creation that would take place whenever a total solar eclipse took place over our planet. You may read about what Rev. Ray Drennan and other leading members of the Unitarian Church of Montreal falsely and maliciously labeled as a "cult" here: http://creationday.homestead.com - I am now an excommunicated Unitarian whose "alternative spiritual practice" includes publicly exposing and denouncing Unitarian*Universalist injustices, abuses, and hypocrisy. The Emerson Avenger blog will serve that purpose for me and hopefully others will share their concerns here. Dee Miller's term DIM Thinking is used frequently and appropriately on this blog. You may read more about what DIM Thinking is here - http://www.takecourage.org/defining.htm

Saturday, November 18, 2006

Peacebang's U*U "Memory Hole" Can Rev. Victoria Weinstein Cover Her U*U?

Why did Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently completely "memory hole" this complete post titled 'God is One Inconsistent Mutha!' on her Peacebang blog?

You may still read the cached version here.

Why did Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently "memory hole" this complete post about 'Sexual Harming' on her Peacebang blog?

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Why did Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently completely "memory hole" this complete post titled 'The Rude Pundit Got It' on her Peacebang blog?

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Why did Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently completely "memory hole" this complete post titled 'Doots On the Range' on her Peacebang blog?

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Why did Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently completely "memory hole" this complete post titled 'Creative Accounting and Fear' on her Peacebang blog?

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Why did Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently completely "memory hole" this complete post titled 'When Things Break' on her Peacebang blog?

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OK I can kinda guess why Rev. Victoria Weinstein recently completely "memory holed" this complete post titled 'A Date in 2005' on her Peacebang blog.

You may still read the cached version here.

Needless to say I have some pretty good guesses as to why Rev. Victoria Weinstein "memory holed" most of the other complete posts and has even very recently suggested that she might "shut down PeaceBang as a general blog". I expect to elaborate on that down the road a bit. . .

Download these revealing little pieces of U*U history before they are completely "disappeared" down the proverbial U*U "memory hole". I expect that there are other whole posts that Peacebang is quite busy relegating to the gigantic "memory hole" of the Uncommonly Uncouth Denomination now commonly known as the U*U "movement". . .

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16 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, you've done a good job silencing her, and the same month when she had a letter in the UU world critizing Sinkford.

Are you sure you aren't on Boston's payroll? You do such a good job doing their dirty work for them by shutting up the mouthy theists.

Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:42:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

I haven't silenced Peacebang or Rev. Victoria Weinstein. It was her decision to "memory hole" her posts not mine. In fact I consider her "memory holing" of her posts tp be an attempt to cover her U*U. Nothing more. Nothing less. . .

And you know as well as I know that I am one of the mouthiest theists in the whole wide U*U World. In fact I am a lot more openly and strongly critical of the UUA, anti-Christian and more broadly anti-religious intolerance and bigotry within the U*U "religious community" and various other internal U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy that Rev. Weinstein is. Indeed some of her deleted posts show up the fact that she has participated in U*U "community denial" of various U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy including egregious abusive clergy sexual misconduct by U*U ministers.

Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:58:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

Oh, and thanks for directing me to that letter to the editor in the UU world in which Rev. Victoria Weinstein is allegedly criticizing UUA President Bill Sinkford. . . AFAIAC it is just further proof of her hypocrisy and I will dedicated a new thread to discussing that outrageous two-faced hypocrisy onb the part of Rev. Weinstein aka Peacebang. Anyway isn't UUA President Bill Sinkford purportedly a bit of a mouthy thiest himself? Just wait until I get around to strongly and publicly criticizing him myself. It is coming any day now unless he gets off his complacent and complicit U*U and begins to actually practice what he so hypocritically preaches with respect to the "obviously deep concerns" that I shared with him years ago now. . .

Tuesday, November 21, 2006 3:05:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good for you Em. Avenger!
Peacebang is a piece of work--what an ego she has! She has time to dispense her dreadful fashion tips for ministers and opine about everyone and everything on her blog, yet ignores huge issues within her on congregation. Where is her humility? The Boston Globe calls about her blog and she immediately decides she can make a book out of it?? Good grief!

On a more serious note, you should check out her church's newly redesigned website, www.firstparishnorwell.org. In the pictures of various church events, she features photos of her esteemed parisioners, convicted child rapist Richard Buell and his wife Phyllis. Richard was convicted of multiple counts of child rape--2 sep. juried trials for 2 sep victims, both verdicts guilty. One victim was a young family member (not his daughter as you have previously stated, but a descendent in any event), both victims were under the age of 12 at the time of the rapes. At the trial it came out that there had been other accusations against Buell dating back to the late 60s, including the rape of another immediate female family member when she was child, but the statute of limitations had expired on those other charges.
Unfortunately, despite all the evidence, numerous creditable prosecution witnesses, including both their grown children, Phyllis Buell has stood by Richard's side and called it all a grand conspiracy without ever providing any reason why anyone would conspire against them.

As someone who knows some of his victims, whose lives have been effectively ruined, it is a complete mystery to me why First Parish members and Rev. Weinstein have stood by Phyllis and Richard--even after the jury trials. They have not reached out to the victims, but instead have circled the wagons around the elder Buells. Rev. Weinstein uses the Parish newsletter to request prayers and letters for Richard, who is now serving 24 years in a maximum security prison. She never once mentions the pain of this vile monster's victims. She never asks for prayers for them.

To those of us familiar with the entire truth of this case (which has never been made public as it was a closed courtroom), Phyllis is as monstrous as her husband. There was testimony in the trial that she was made aware of his perverted predilictions over 30 years ago, and did nothing to protect children in their care at that time or in years to come.

Yet a photo of Phyllis smiling on a parish-sponsored hike in October--a full month after the conclusion of the trials (at which Phyllis had to be forcably removed from the courtroom for making an angry scene, including threats, swearing and yelling) is featured prominently on the First Parish website. Talk about showing a lack of sensitivity to the victims of sexual crimes!!! Wouldn't any minister at least remove the photo of the convicted pedophile (he's in a group shot "the Mals" from a mystery dinner the church held last winter) and stop publishing photos of his wife. Why not rub the victims faces in their pain a little more? She supports a known pedophile and his enabler, yet criticizes the Catholic church. She should memory-hole both of her self-riteous blogs and use her blogging time for some thoughtful reflection on how her actions and inaction, as a minister, effect the victims of sex crimes.

Friday, November 24, 2006 7:52:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

:Good for you Em. Avenger!

Well a little bit of public affirmation never hurts. Thanks whoever you may be.

:Peacebang is a piece of work--what an ego she has!

It would appear that she does have a rather large ego. Hopefully I have let some of the air out of her puffed up ego in recent weeks

:She has time to dispense her dreadful fashion tips for ministers and opine about everyone and everything on her blog,

And often with quite insulting and defamatory language. . . Come to think of it I haven't heard her cuss and swear about you-know-who. . .

:yet ignores huge issues within her on congregation.

Well she doesn't totally ignore them, I found out about the Richard Buell case from her church newsletter, but do feel free to come back and elaborate on that allegation / accusation.

:Where is her humility?

Good question. I have not seen any sign of it yet. . .

:The Boston Globe calls about her blog and she immediately decides she can make a book out of it?? Good grief!

Well she apparently claims that the Boston Globe want to make a book. I was wondering what that might be all about.

:On a more serious note, you should check out her church's newly redesigned website, www.firstparishnorwell.org. In the pictures of various church events, she features photos of her esteemed parisioners, convicted child rapist Richard Buell and his wife Phyllis.

Interesting. Can you point out or describe the specific photo? Do you know if Rev. Weinstein's convicted rapist parishioner is the Richjard Buell who was a music critic for the Boston Globe?

:Richard was convicted of multiple counts of child rape--2 sep. juried trials for 2 sep victims, both verdicts guilty.

Yes I am aware of that.

:One victim was a young family member (not his daughter as you have previously stated, but a descendent in any event),

Yikes. . . I won't speculate on what kind of decendent but the implications here are clear. One of Buell's nephew's reported on his blog that Richard Buell was arrested for raping his daughter on his blog and it fit the scenario painted by the Norwell Mariner newspaper report. I guess that means that all those spurious accusations from U*Us that I "outed" the rape victims are now totally invalid if the "family member" victim was not in fact his daughter.

:both victims were under the age of 12 at the time of the rapes.

Yes that was reported in the Norwell Mariner.

:At the trial it came out that there had been other accusations against Buell dating back to the late 60s, including the rape of another immediate female family member when she was child, but the statute of limitations had expired on those other charges.

Yes, this is sadly all too often the case with these kinds of sexual abuse cases.

:Unfortunately, despite all the evidence, numerous creditable prosecution witnesses, including both their grown children, Phyllis Buell has stood by Richard's side and called it all a grand conspiracy without ever providing any reason why anyone would conspire against them.

Sounds like some of the U*Us I know. . .

:As someone who knows some of his victims, whose lives have been effectively ruined, it is a complete mystery to me why First Parish members and Rev. Weinstein have stood by Phyllis and Richard--even after the jury trials.

Well to what extent have they actually "stood by" Richard or indeed Phyllis?

:They have not reached out to the victims, but instead have circled the wagons around the elder Buells.

That is unfortunately all too believable. If true, and I don't have any reason to doubt your word about this, this is a classic example of what Dee Miller calls DIM Thinking.

:Rev. Weinstein uses the Parish newsletter to request prayers and letters for Richard, who is now serving 24 years in a maximum security prison.

I noticed that.

:She never once mentions the pain of this vile monster's victims.

I noticed that too although I felt it possible that she might have spoken on behalf of the rape victims elsewhere. Are you quite sure that she has never spoken out on behalf of the victims?

:She never asks for prayers for them.

Well I certainly haven't noticed any calls for prayers for the victims, nor can I find any online evidence of any concern for the victims. That spoke volumes to me, as did the total lack of concern for the victims of some of the DIM Thinking U*Us posting here. You would think that I was a worse criminal than Richard Buell judging by their self-righteous attacks on me for speaking about the case in the context of criticizing Rev. Victoria Weinstein for her own DIM Thinking and quite outrageous hypocrisy.

:To those of us familiar with the entire truth of this case (which has never been made public as it was a closed courtroom),

That bad was it?

:Phyllis is as monstrous as her husband. There was testimony in the trial that she was made aware of his perverted predilictions over 30 years ago, and did nothing to protect children in their care at that time or in years to come.

That kind of enabling behaviour is also typical of these kinds of cases.

:Yet a photo of Phyllis smiling on a parish-sponsored hike in October--a full month after the conclusion of the trials (at which Phyllis had to be forcably removed from the courtroom for making an angry scene, including threats, swearing and yelling) is featured prominently on the First Parish website. Talk about showing a lack of sensitivity to the victims of sexual crimes!!!

Well according to a bunch of DIM Thinking U*Us posting here I am an incredibly insensitive monster for allegedly "outing" the victims when all I did was report what was already publicly available information. If you have contact with the victims please let them know about what I have posted here. This is a censorship free blog but I may make an exception if the victims want some things removed.

:Wouldn't any minister at least remove the photo of the convicted pedophile (he's in a group shot "the Mals" from a mystery dinner the church held last winter) and stop publishing photos of his wife. Why not rub the victims faces in their pain a little more?

Well the U*Us I know are pretty good at rubbing their victims faces in their pain a little more. . . It was callously insensitive U*Us who inspired me to come up with the saying -

Regrettably it is all too human to be inhuman.

:She supports a known pedophile and his enabler, yet criticizes the Catholic church.

Yes that was the last straw for me. I had grounds to "out" Rev. Victoria Weinstein and strongly criticize her months ago but chose to be quite lenient. In fact it was her outrageously hypocritical finger pointing at Catholics about sexual abuse while not making the slightest mantion of ANY U*U sexual abuse that caused me to decide to try to "out" her so she could face accountability or at least my strong criticism. It was in the process of determining just who Peacebang was that I came across the carefully worded announcement about the special meeting with Rev. Deborah Pope-Lance to discuss the Richard Buell case. I knew that Rev. Pope-Lance is the U*U religious community's specialist in sexual abuse matters and everything fell into place very quickly after that discovery. I consider Rev. Victoria Weinstein's public attack on Catholics over sexual abuse while not saying boo about ANY U*U sexual abuse at a time when one of her own aging parishioners was just convicted of rape with force of preteen girls to be the epitome of two-faced hypocrisy.

:She should memory-hole both of her self-riteous blogs and use her blogging time for some thoughtful reflection on how her actions and inaction, as a minister, effect the victims of sex crimes.

Well I am strongly opposed to censorship, especially "memory holing". Personally I think that Rev. Weinstein's blogs should stay intact as an object lesson for all to see. . . but Rev. Weinstein is obviously now busily "memory holing" her own most damning posts in order to hide the evidence of her obviously unbecoming conduct as a minister, other indiscretions, and her quite evident hypocrisy. I certainly agree however that Rev. Victoria Weinstein should certainly engage in some thoughtful reflection on how her actions or indeed any inaction, as a minister, affected and possibly still affects the victims of Richard Buell's sex crimes. Indeed I think that the greater U*U religious community needs to do more of that kind of reflection not only in terms of sex crimes but other injustices and abuses that are perpetrated by U*Us and indeed enabled and perpetuated by U*Us.

Thank you very much for posting here and do feel free to weigh in again.

Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:27:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all this Richard Buell is NOT the Boston Globe music critic. The rapist Richard Buell, who sometimes goes by the nickname Dick (how appropriate,) is a retired engineer and naval officer.

Dick and Phyllis Buell were supported by the First Parish Community from the indictment over 2.5 years ago, through the two trials, and continue to receive the support of many in the church despite the two child rape convictions. That this support was published in the church newsletter despite the ongoing slander of the victims and their supporters is my main bone of contention with Peacebang/Rev Weinstein.

Prior to the trials, I could somewhat understand the support as all the facts weren't known, though I did not think the Spire newsletter should have made any comment.

I was absolutely incredulous that just weeks after the convictions of Buell, Peacebang rants about the Mark Foley case yet never rants about the case in her own church---a far more heinous one. Little girls were RAPED by a church elder, a pillar of the community, a man entrusted with their care and well-being.

You did not "out" the rape victims, by the way. The ones who testified are all adults now and the town paper covered the trial and provided enough detail that locals could surmise who the victims were. Furthermore, the elder Buells and friends told anyone who would listen to them who their accusers were, and impuned their integrity, in an attempt to sway public opinion prior to the trial.

Rev. Weinstein/Peacebang may very well think privately Buell is a monster, but what is published on the web at the First Parish site in a column she writes is her position to many people. None of the victims are members of the church, so if Rev Weinstein has offered words of support in church services, the victims wouldn't have heard them.

In fairness, I don't go to her church, so I don't know what is said there. However, from the outset of this case, when Buell was first indicted a few years back, the First Parish Newsletter, The Spire, asked for support for the elder Buells on numerous occasions. Sadly, one of the young victims noticed it when she googled the Buells' names 4 or 5 months after the original indictment, and the Spire newsletter came up as the first item. It was a shock for her to see in the (August '04 I believe) Spire a note from the Buells thanking all of their many parish supporters.

In the town of Norwell, the Buells and friends spread a series vicious conspiracy rumors over the past few years. They made many accusations about their grown children and their supporters. The nephew (or niece?) you reference said on his/her blog that the adult Buell children are "drugies" (sic)I won't even dignify that comment with a response, but that's representative of the kind of dirt that was being dished. At one time they even implied that one of Phyllis Buell's brothers-in-law was the rapist, and then, when that theory didn't float, they accused their own son, even though every victim identified Dick Buell as the one and only rapist.

As for the "trauma counsellor" the church hired to help the congregation deal with Buell's convictions, I know it's hard to learn your friend is a child rapist, but the rape victims and their friends and supporters were victims of far worse trauma. They had to put up with more than 2.5 years of trial delays and badmouthing by the Buells and their supporters, including a letter of support published in the local newspaper, the Norwell Mariner, from some church friends, the Carpenters. Perhaps the trauma specialist counselled those who reviled the victims, to apologize for their complicity in further victimizing them? I doubt it. It would be interesting to hear from Peacebang on that topic. What came of that session?

Despite all this pain and suffering, the church continues to post smiling photos of Phyllis and Richard on the church website, which was completely overhauled as recently as last week--3 months after the convictions.
Why not delete those photos, out of simple courtesy to the victims and those among the congregation who believe in his guilt, and why reference the Buell case in the newsletter at all, particularly now that there have been convictions? I don't get it.

Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:21:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

:First of all this Richard Buell is NOT the Boston Globe music critic. The rapist Richard Buell, who sometimes goes by the nickname Dick (how appropriate,) is a retired engineer and naval officer.

Thanks for that important clarification.

:Dick and Phyllis Buell were supported by the First Parish Community from the indictment over 2.5 years ago, through the two trials, and continue to receive the support of many in the church despite the two child rape convictions. That this support was published in the church newsletter despite the ongoing slander of the victims and their supporters is my main bone of contention with Peacebang/Rev Weinstein.

This is definitely what Dee Miller would call DIM Thinking.

Author's Definition: the conscious or unconscious collaboration of two or more individuals to protect those engaged in unethical practices. (Note: When clergy sexual abuse, domestic violence, or incest within the congregation is involved, persons often collude to protect other colluders!)

:Prior to the trials, I could somewhat understand the support as all the facts weren't known, though I did not think the Spire newsletter should have made any comment.

Did it make any comment prior to the trial?

:I was absolutely incredulous that just weeks after the convictions of Buell, Peacebang rants about the Mark Foley case yet never rants about the case in her own church---a far more heinous one. Little girls were RAPED by a church elder, a pillar of the community, a man entrusted with their care and well-being.

Yes, it was this outrageously hypocritical attack on Catholics by Peacebang that caused me to try to indentify her. When I found out about the Buell rape case in the process of trying to identify exactly who Peacebang was I decided that enough was enough and I would expose her for who she really is.

:You did not "out" the rape victims, by the way. The ones who testified are all adults now and the town paper covered the trial and provided enough detail that locals could surmise who the victims were.

I know that but thanks for stating that publicly. I repeatedly told this to the DIM Thinking U*Us who cynically accused me of "outing" the rape victims in their efforts to try to discredit me and silence me.

:Furthermore, the elder Buells and friends told anyone who would listen to them who their accusers were, and impuned their integrity, in an attempt to sway public opinion prior to the trial.

That too is very typical of DIM Thinking and I have had plenty of U*Us engage in that kind of DIM Thinking with me although my case does not involve any sexual abuse.

:Rev. Weinstein/Peacebang may very well think privately Buell is a monster, but what is published on the web at the First Parish site in a column she writes is her position to many people.

I agree. There is a huge contrast between what and how Rev. Victoria Weinstein wrote about Dick Buell in 'The Spire' and what and how she wrote about Catholic sexual abuse on her Peacebang blog. I dare say that it's like a primer on Pathologically Not Getting It. . .

:None of the victims are members of the church, so if Rev Weinstein has offered words of support in church services, the victims wouldn't have heard them.

I didn't expect that they would be members of the First Parish Norwell Unitarian Universalist Church. Some U*Us actually had the gall to pretend that the victims were members of the church and that I was further victimizing them by allegedly "outing" them.

:In fairness, I don't go to her church, so I don't know what is said there. However, from the outset of this case, when Buell was first indicted a few years back, the First Parish Newsletter, The Spire, asked for support for the elder Buells on numerous occasions.

What kind of support was asked for beyond "moral support"?

:Sadly, one of the young victims noticed it when she googled the Buells' names 4 or 5 months after the original indictment, and the Spire newsletter came up as the first item. It was a shock for her to see in the (August '04 I believe) Spire a note from the Buells thanking all of their many parish supporters.

Yes that would indeed be a painful experience for any victim.

:In the town of Norwell, the Buells and friends spread a series vicious conspiracy rumors over the past few years.

Sounds like some of the U*Us I know. . . More DIM Thinking for sure.

:They made many accusations about their grown children and their supporters. The nephew (or niece?) you reference said on his/her blog that the adult Buell children are "drugies" (sic)I won't even dignify that comment with a response, but that's representative of the kind of dirt that was being dished.

Yes I noticed that and saw it as a classic example of DIM Thinking. That is how I came to believe that one of Dick Buell's victims was his own daughter. It occurred to me that even if the accusers / rape victims were drug addicts of some kind that this might well have been caused by their traumatic experiences of having been brutally raped with force as children by a close relative.

:At one time they even implied that one of Phyllis Buell's brothers-in-law was the rapist, and then, when that theory didn't float, they accused their own son, even though every victim identified Dick Buell as the one and only rapist.

Lovely. . . BTW Just how many victims were there? I count three so far.

:As for the "trauma counsellor" the church hired to help the congregation deal with Buell's convictions, I know it's hard to learn your friend is a child rapist, but the rape victims and their friends and supporters were victims of far worse trauma.

Of course. I did not realize that the "church" hired a trauma counsellor to help deal with the Buell's convictions. Are you talking about Rev. Deborah Pope-Lance here? It would shed new light on her role if she is indeed who you are referring to as a "trauma counsellor". If The First Parish Unitarian Church of Norwell really cared about the victims you would expect them to provide some substantial support to the victims. It sounds like the exact opposite is what has happened here.

:They had to put up with more than 2.5 years of trial delays and badmouthing by the Buells and their supporters, including a letter of support published in the local newspaper, the Norwell Mariner, from some church friends, the Carpenters.

Do you think it is possible that this letter of support for the Buell's from "some church friends" was not just an individual effort but had support and backing from the "church" leadership or congregation?

:Perhaps the trauma specialist counselled those who reviled the victims, to apologize for their complicity in further victimizing them? I doubt it.

Well I guess we won't know what was actually said in any meetings with the trauma specialist unless someone speaks out about it. Was the trauma specialist you are referring to Rev. Deborah Pope-Lance or someone else?

:It would be interesting to hear from Peacebang on that topic. What came of that session?

I don't know any more than you do about that and possibly even less but I am assuming that you are referring to the special meeting that was announced on page three of 'The Spire' in mid-October. It was that announcement that put me on to the Dick Buell rape case and a few additional Google searches turned up a fair bit of the gory details. I will refer to Dick Buell from here on in in order to minimize confusion with the music critic. I can't imagine he is too thrilled by what turns up in Google searches on his name.

:Despite all this pain and suffering, the church continues to post smiling photos of Phyllis and Richard on the church website, which was completely overhauled as recently as last week--3 months after the convictions.

Yes it does look like the First Parish Church Norwell web site was revamped recently. It looks different than when I first came across it about a month ago now.

:Why not delete those photos, out of simple courtesy to the victims and those among the congregation who believe in his guilt, and why reference the Buell case in the newsletter at all, particularly now that there have been convictions? I don't get it.

Well I guess it was addressed in the newsletter in terms of the special meeting with Rev. Deborah Pope-Lance and in terms of soliciting prayers for the convicted rapist while omitting to solicit prayers for his victims. Personally I see nothing wrong with addressing this matter in 'The Spire', indeed I think that it should be addressed not only in the church newsletter but an appropriate sermon or two. I do not object to the matter being addressed by U*Us I only object to how U*Us have so far addressed this case of egregious sexual abuse. I look forward to the day when a sermon that addresses the full truth of what occurred is read to the congregation of The First Parish Unitarian Church of Norwell.

Thanks again for posting here and do feel free to post again with more pertinent information and thoughtful opinions.

Saturday, November 25, 2006 1:48:00 pm  
Blogger Joel Monka said...

Can you clarify the rules of outing a little bit? As I understand it, someone can remain anonymous if they agree with you, and/or are the enemy of your enemy; is that how it works?

Saturday, November 25, 2006 5:56:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

:Can you clarify the rules of outing a little bit?

Sure Joel.

:As I understand it, someone can remain anonymous if they agree with you, and/or are the enemy of your enemy; is that how it works?

You are being remarkably disingenuous here Joel. There are lots of people who post anonymously here or elsewhere who I have not "outed" nor have even made the slightest attempt to "out". The rules are very simple Joel. If I have very good reason to believe that an anonymous poster is hiding behind the protection of anonymity aka pseudonymity in order to post insulting and/or defamatory or otherwise unjustifiably harmful material about people without facing any accountability I reserve the right to reveal who they are if I find out who they are. That's it Joel. It's a pretty simple and straighforward rule don't you think? And I have only enforced it once so far. . .

I take note of your apparent complete lack of concern about the much more serious issues regarding U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy that have been raised here in this thread Joel. . .

Saturday, November 25, 2006 6:23:00 pm  
Blogger Joel Monka said...

Many would call some of anonymous' remarks insulting and defamatory, especially those in the first paragraph that aren't directly germane to the point.

The lack of comment does not indicate a lack of concern, but a lack of balanced facts. I am aware that there is more than one side to every story, and try not to fly off the handle after hearing the first one.

Saturday, November 25, 2006 8:59:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

:Many would call some of anonymous' remarks insulting and defamatory, especially those in the first paragraph that aren't directly germane to the point.

Well yes I don't disagree that some remarks were a bit insulting but they were inconsequential and even comparatively polite when compared to the insulting and defamatory verbally abusive rhetoric that Rev. Victoria Weinstein quite regularly dishes out on her rather less than peaceful Peacebang blog. . .

N'est-ce pas Joel?

:The lack of comment does not indicate a lack of concern, but a lack of balanced facts.

ROTFLMU*UO

The facts were, and still are, pretty clear Joel.

Your lack of concern was, and still is. . . glaringly obvious to anyone reading your posts here Joel. You were far more concerned about me "outing" Peacebang than the fact that a parishioner of Rev. Weinstein was just convicted of raping two pre-teens girls.

:I am aware that there is more than one side to every story, and try not to fly off the handle after hearing the first one.

Who flew off the handle Joel?

Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:24:00 pm  
Blogger Joel Monka said...

"You were far more concerned about me "outing" Peacebang than..." Let me translate: I was far more concerned with something happening right before my eyes than something that had happened in the past, 1000 miles away, that I knew no details of. Guilty as charged. You said the facts were pretty clear... but I do not consider "facts" reported from a single source or a single news story (which I had not even read at the time I objected to the outing!) to be "clear"

"Who flew off the handle Joel?" Not me.

Sunday, November 26, 2006 12:41:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

Your "translation" is just another lame cop-out Joel and I am quite confident that most intelligent people of conscience will see it that way. In fact I expect that some people will agree that it is just more DIM Thinking on your part. If I had enough information available to make a reasonably informed decision about the Dick Buell rape case so did you and any other U*U who knew of the situation.

I dare say that you did pretty much fly off the handle about my "outing" of Peacebang as Rev. Victoria Weinstein Joel. I have this blog post of yours, which contains a veiled threat, and a bunch of emails you sent me to back that up. . .

Sunday, November 26, 2006 2:41:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

To the anonymous poster who posted testimony about the Dick Buell rape case. Feel free to contact me privately and confidentially at robinedgar59@yahoo.ca if you have some things you wish to share with me in confidence. I am not big on secrecy and prefer openness but can and will keep confidences in certain situations. This is one of them. I will not reveal your identity and I will not post what you share with me privately without first having sought your permission to do so. I am most interested in knowing more about how the leaders and members of the First Parish Church Unitarian Norwell dealt with the whole Buell rape issue from the beginning and how they treated the Buell's victims. It sounds like they were definitely guilty of some pretty egregious DIM Thinking based on what you have said so far.

If you are in contact with the victims please let them know about this discussion. Presumably they will find it one of these days anyway if they run appropriate Google searches. Input from the victims themselves about how they were treated by DIM Thinking U*Us would be most welcome here and might force U*Us to clean up their act a bit. I am not at all convinced that the U*U religious community is really doing as good a job as they publicly claim to be doing in responding to sexual abuse issues within the U*U community.

Sunday, November 26, 2006 4:55:00 pm  
Blogger Joel Monka said...

Until you pointed it out in this context, I didn't know what you were referring to- in my mind it was clear that I was speaking of future posts in my blog, and honestly didn't think of how it would appear to you. Looking at it now, I understand completely why you could consider it a veiled threat, and I do appologize to you for that- none was intended. Hyperbole is a dangerous tool in a format where no one can see a wry smile.

Sunday, November 26, 2006 11:56:00 pm  
Blogger The Emerson Avenger said...

The last guy to threaten to punch my lights out had criminal charges brought against him and they stuck. . . I very kindly allowed him to be subjected to non-judicial treatment for his threats rather than have him stuck with a criminal record. I could have had a restraining order placed on him that would probably have prevented him from attending the Unitarian Church of Montreal on days that I am protesting. I was very lenient once the threat was neutralized. Quite regrettably DIM Thinking U*Us rejected all of my offers of leniency and reconciliation in the early stages of this dispute. they are still paying the price and if they try to play hardball with me again as it seems they might, based on what happenedtoday, they will very quickly come to regret it. . .

Monday, November 27, 2006 12:08:00 am  

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