Did UU Pagan Joel Monka Choose The Fate Of Becoming A Knowing And Willful Participant In The U*U Witch Hunt Against Your's Truly?
U*Us decide. . .
In a recent comment on The ChaliceChick's blog conservative pagan U*U Joel Monka requested/demanded that I should cease and desist from using the term "witch hunt" to describe the intolerant and bigoted, to say nothing of irrational and paranoid. . . persecution aka *witch hunt* that I have been subjected to by most Montreal Unitarian U*Us and indeed a good number of other U*Us U*U Worldwide. A rather dim thinking, to say nothing of DIM Thinking. . . Joel Monka seems to believe that my "situation" is - nothing like the witches who get rousted by the police everytime they find a dead animal on the grounds that it "may be a ritual killing", or the surveilance and questioning everytime a church is vandalized, or the greater frenzies anytime someone has "a recovered memory" of "satanic ritual abuse".
As a rule, I use the term "witch hunt" when speaking about the fact that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, John Inder, and various other Montreal Unitarian U*Us, as well as a certain number of other ignorant and abusive U*Us out there in the U*U World have maliciously characterized me as a "crazy" "psychotic" "nutcase" and have slandered Creation Day as being a "cult" of the "manipulative and secretive" (read dangerous) Solar Temple variety. By bringing the issue of police harassment into the "witch hunt" equation, in a deeply misguided effort to Deny, Ignore, and Minimize the fact that I have been (and still am) the victim of what can be very justifiably described as a Unitarian*Universalist "witch hunt", Joel Monka does nothing to diminish the reality of the "witch hunt" that I have been subjected to by U*Us. Au contraire, Joel Monka unwittingly, aka dim thinkingly. . . reinforces the reality of the U*U "witch hunt" that I have been dealing with for over a decade now. The fact of the matter is that, as part and parcel of the "witch hunt" that Montreal Unitarian U*Us have been carrying out against me for over a decade now, I have been subjected to a certain amount of legal harassment and police harassment that very closely parallels the kind of police harassment that some pagans are subjected to according to Joel Monka. Here is my response to his highly questionable pretense that what I am experiencing here in Montreal pales in comparison to "the real witch hunts that occur daily" which Joel Monka is talking about. I have corrected an HTML error in the original comment as posted to the ChaliceChick blog and added an extra hyperlink or two that was not in the original comment -
Sorry Joel but I will not stop using the now quite generalized term "witch hunt" to describe my experience with the Unitarian Church of Montreal or indeed the U*U World more generally. Read the following definition of the term "witch hunt" and weep. . .
From Wikipedia - The term "witch-hunt" is often used to refer to similarly panic-induced searches for perceived wrong-doers other than witches. The best known example is probably the McCarthyist search for communists during the Cold War,[2][3] which was discredited partly through being compared to the Salem witch trials.[2]
:Your situation is nothing like the witches who get rousted by the police every time they find a dead animal on the grounds that it "may be a ritual killing",
No of course not Joel nothing like it at all. . . Paranoid and/or perjurious U*Us just make depositions to the Montreal police pretending that I am some kind of deranged "psycho" and swear up and down that they have "reasonable grounds to believe" that I represent an "imminent threat" of entering the Unitarian Church of Montreal with a firearm and blowing away Montreal Unitarian U*Us à la Jim David Adkisson. Not the slightest similarity there eh Joel?
:or the surveilance and questioning everytime a church is vandalized,
Or the surveillance and questioning by the Montreal police almost every time I exercise my constitutionally guaranteed right to engage in peaceful public protest in front of the Unitarian Church of Montreal. . . To say nothing of the occasional false arrest. . . Nope. No comparison there at all Joel. Not the teensiest. . .
:or the greater frenzies anytime someone has "a recovered memory" of "satanic ritual abuse".
What about Rev. Ray Drennan's "recovered memory" that Creation Day is a cult Joel?
I am quite confident that plenty of real witches will agree that I have plenty of grounds to refer to the intolerance and persecution that I have encountered at the Unitarian Church of Montreal and in the greater U*U World as a "witch hunt" Joel.
Thanks for affirming and promoting the *presentation* of my picket signs Joel. Your very public approval of their readability from a good distance away is most appreciated. :-)
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As may be seen from my response to ever so conservative pagan U*U Joel Monka's DIM Thinking and indeed dim thinking comment, the legal harassment and police harassment that I have been subjected to by Montreal Unitarian U*Us is arguably more serious than some of the police harassment of pagans that he mentions.
What is worse? Being questioned by police because you are suspected of killing an animal on the grounds that it "may be a ritual killing", or actually being arrested by police, undergoing a criminal court hearing presided over by a hostile and biased Quebec Court judge, and then having a year long restraining order unjustly imposed on you, because "witch hunting" Montreal Unitarian U*Us, including the minister of the Unitarian Church of Montreal Rev. Diane Rollert, have testified to the Montreal police force and indeed Quebec's Attorney General that they have "reasonable grounds to believe" that I will commit "a serious personal injury" offense against Montreal Unitarian U*Us when there are virtually no "reasonable grounds" for *anyone* to believe such a thing at all?
What is worse? Being subjected to "surveilance and questioning everytime a church is vandalized," or being subjected to police surveillance and/or questioning, to say nothing of the occasional false arrest. . . almost every time I choose to exercise my constitutionally guaranteed right to engage in peaceful public protest? In Joel Monka's scenario a church has actually been vandalized, and is thus the victim of an illegal criminal act which the police are obliged to investigate. Meanwhile Montreal Unitarian U*Us repeatedly call the police and demand police intervention almost every time that I engage in the perfectly legal Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guaranteed act of peaceful public protest against the anti-religious intolerance and bigotry of Rev. Ray Drennan and Frank Greene et al, and various other U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy. I dare say that Montreal Unitarian U*Us have lent a whole new meaning to the term "police harassment" with *their" repeated harassment of the Montreal police force with their phone calls, letters, depositions and other communications demanding that the police do something to force an end to my perfectly legal peaceful public protest against their big fat U*U "witch hunt" and other U*U injustices and abuses.
What is the difference between "frenzies" anytime someone has "a recovered memory" of "satanic ritual abuse" and big fat U*U "frenzies" caused by intolerant and malicious Montreal Unitarian U*Us spreading slanderous lies that Creation Day is a "cult" of the "manipulative and secretive" Solar Temple variety? Not much as far as a can see. . . I could even reasonably argue that, given the choice, most people would prefer to be *survivors* of "satanic ritual abuse" than non-survivors of a Solar Temple cult style ritual suicide/murder. . . N'est-ce pas U*Us? How many times do I have to say that falsely and maliciously accusing someone of belonging to, or trying to start, a dangerous Solar Temple style cult is the 20th century (now 21st century) equivalent of accusing someone of belonging to a coven of witches, or indeed an outright Satanic group, before U*Us finally *get* that I am in fact being subjected to what may be very justifiably described as a "witch-hunt" that was initially perpetrated by Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene and other anti-religious "fundamentalist atheist" "Humanist" U*Us, but has been perpetuated for over a decade now by the Board and congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal who not only did nothing to responsibly put an end to that "fundamentalist atheist" witch-hunt against me, but escalated it, aggravated it, expanded it and prolonged it with their grossly negligent, effectively complicit, and unjustly punitive responses to my formal complaints arising from Rev. Ray Drennan's initial intolerant and abusive attack on me? The legal harassment and police harassment that I have been subjected to by Montreal Unitarian U*Us since I began my peaceful public protest against the "witch hunt" that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, and other Montreal U*Us started in the mid-1990s forms part and parcel of that escalated, aggravated, and expanded Unitarian*Universalist "witch hunt" AFA*I*AC.
But we are not done with pagan U*U Joel Monka (who may or may not self-identify as a "witch" himself) or "witch hunting" Unitarian*Universalists just yet because, as my blog title suggests, Joel Monka himself seems to have chosen the dubious U*U fate of becoming a knowing and willful participant in the Unitarian*Universalist witch-hunt against me. In a blog post titled 'Police probe "pagan" attacks on church' Joel Monka said the following -
The strangest thing about this story is that it comes from Scotland! Scotland? I mean, a psycho with an obsession about God's eye sending notes to a church for years about unrectified wrongs... that's just so Canadian!
Update
No, there's been no further news from Scotland that I'm aware of; this is an update about the post itself. I've received private comment about my oblique reference to Vancouver based church protester Kevin Annett - and now I'm told some other nutcase is claiming I was talking about him. It seems hard to credit- are there really people so starved for attention, with egos so vast that they claim any reference to a psycho must be aimed at them???
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So just who was that alleged Canadian "psycho" with "an obsession about God's eye sending notes to a church for years about unrectified wrongs" that Joel Monka talking about in this blog post? Joel Monka tries to *pretend* that he was talking about "Vancouver based church protester Kevin Annett" in his "update" but I am confident that most people of intelligence and conscience know perfectly well that Joel Monka's insulting and defamatory inU*Uendo was aimed very directly at yours truly. The last time I checked "God's eye" does not play a role in Kevin Annett's church protests. There is not any evidence that I am aware of which remotely suggests that Kevin Annett has any "obsession" with God's eye but everybody knows that intolerant U*Us have been accusing me of having an "obsession" with God's eye, to say nothing of an "obsession" with exposing and denouncing U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy, for quite some time now. Even if Joel Monka's initial blog post *really* was about Kevin Annett, which is a highly improbable "coincidence", Joel shoved his pagan U*U foot right down his throat with his disingenuous "update" in which he insinuates that I am a "nutcase" who is so "starved for attention" and with an ego "so vast" that I claimed that Joel Monka's reference to a Canadian "psycho" "with an obsession about God's eye sending notes to a church for years about unrectified wrongs" must be aimed at yours truly.
How many times have I said that falsely and maliciously labeling someone as "psychotic" or indeed "psycho" is the 20th century equivalent of accusing someone of being "possessed" by demons, or the Devil himself, not so long ago. . . to say nothing of here and now in some less civilized parts of the world than Canada and America? Sorry Joel but AFA*I*AC you joined that ever so exclusive club of Unitarian*Universalist witch-hunters when you posted your big fat U*U inU*Uendo in your 'Police probe 'pagan' attacks on church' blog post on March 6th of this year. I am confident that most people of intelligence and conscience will concur with that quite reasonable and rational assessment of your wild words there. . .
In a recent comment on The ChaliceChick's blog conservative pagan U*U Joel Monka requested/demanded that I should cease and desist from using the term "witch hunt" to describe the intolerant and bigoted, to say nothing of irrational and paranoid. . . persecution aka *witch hunt* that I have been subjected to by most Montreal Unitarian U*Us and indeed a good number of other U*Us U*U Worldwide. A rather dim thinking, to say nothing of DIM Thinking. . . Joel Monka seems to believe that my "situation" is - nothing like the witches who get rousted by the police everytime they find a dead animal on the grounds that it "may be a ritual killing", or the surveilance and questioning everytime a church is vandalized, or the greater frenzies anytime someone has "a recovered memory" of "satanic ritual abuse".
As a rule, I use the term "witch hunt" when speaking about the fact that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, John Inder, and various other Montreal Unitarian U*Us, as well as a certain number of other ignorant and abusive U*Us out there in the U*U World have maliciously characterized me as a "crazy" "psychotic" "nutcase" and have slandered Creation Day as being a "cult" of the "manipulative and secretive" (read dangerous) Solar Temple variety. By bringing the issue of police harassment into the "witch hunt" equation, in a deeply misguided effort to Deny, Ignore, and Minimize the fact that I have been (and still am) the victim of what can be very justifiably described as a Unitarian*Universalist "witch hunt", Joel Monka does nothing to diminish the reality of the "witch hunt" that I have been subjected to by U*Us. Au contraire, Joel Monka unwittingly, aka dim thinkingly. . . reinforces the reality of the U*U "witch hunt" that I have been dealing with for over a decade now. The fact of the matter is that, as part and parcel of the "witch hunt" that Montreal Unitarian U*Us have been carrying out against me for over a decade now, I have been subjected to a certain amount of legal harassment and police harassment that very closely parallels the kind of police harassment that some pagans are subjected to according to Joel Monka. Here is my response to his highly questionable pretense that what I am experiencing here in Montreal pales in comparison to "the real witch hunts that occur daily" which Joel Monka is talking about. I have corrected an HTML error in the original comment as posted to the ChaliceChick blog and added an extra hyperlink or two that was not in the original comment -
Sorry Joel but I will not stop using the now quite generalized term "witch hunt" to describe my experience with the Unitarian Church of Montreal or indeed the U*U World more generally. Read the following definition of the term "witch hunt" and weep. . .
From Wikipedia - The term "witch-hunt" is often used to refer to similarly panic-induced searches for perceived wrong-doers other than witches. The best known example is probably the McCarthyist search for communists during the Cold War,[2][3] which was discredited partly through being compared to the Salem witch trials.[2]
:Your situation is nothing like the witches who get rousted by the police every time they find a dead animal on the grounds that it "may be a ritual killing",
No of course not Joel nothing like it at all. . . Paranoid and/or perjurious U*Us just make depositions to the Montreal police pretending that I am some kind of deranged "psycho" and swear up and down that they have "reasonable grounds to believe" that I represent an "imminent threat" of entering the Unitarian Church of Montreal with a firearm and blowing away Montreal Unitarian U*Us à la Jim David Adkisson. Not the slightest similarity there eh Joel?
:or the surveilance and questioning everytime a church is vandalized,
Or the surveillance and questioning by the Montreal police almost every time I exercise my constitutionally guaranteed right to engage in peaceful public protest in front of the Unitarian Church of Montreal. . . To say nothing of the occasional false arrest. . . Nope. No comparison there at all Joel. Not the teensiest. . .
:or the greater frenzies anytime someone has "a recovered memory" of "satanic ritual abuse".
What about Rev. Ray Drennan's "recovered memory" that Creation Day is a cult Joel?
I am quite confident that plenty of real witches will agree that I have plenty of grounds to refer to the intolerance and persecution that I have encountered at the Unitarian Church of Montreal and in the greater U*U World as a "witch hunt" Joel.
Thanks for affirming and promoting the *presentation* of my picket signs Joel. Your very public approval of their readability from a good distance away is most appreciated. :-)
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As may be seen from my response to ever so conservative pagan U*U Joel Monka's DIM Thinking and indeed dim thinking comment, the legal harassment and police harassment that I have been subjected to by Montreal Unitarian U*Us is arguably more serious than some of the police harassment of pagans that he mentions.
What is worse? Being questioned by police because you are suspected of killing an animal on the grounds that it "may be a ritual killing", or actually being arrested by police, undergoing a criminal court hearing presided over by a hostile and biased Quebec Court judge, and then having a year long restraining order unjustly imposed on you, because "witch hunting" Montreal Unitarian U*Us, including the minister of the Unitarian Church of Montreal Rev. Diane Rollert, have testified to the Montreal police force and indeed Quebec's Attorney General that they have "reasonable grounds to believe" that I will commit "a serious personal injury" offense against Montreal Unitarian U*Us when there are virtually no "reasonable grounds" for *anyone* to believe such a thing at all?
What is worse? Being subjected to "surveilance and questioning everytime a church is vandalized," or being subjected to police surveillance and/or questioning, to say nothing of the occasional false arrest. . . almost every time I choose to exercise my constitutionally guaranteed right to engage in peaceful public protest? In Joel Monka's scenario a church has actually been vandalized, and is thus the victim of an illegal criminal act which the police are obliged to investigate. Meanwhile Montreal Unitarian U*Us repeatedly call the police and demand police intervention almost every time that I engage in the perfectly legal Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guaranteed act of peaceful public protest against the anti-religious intolerance and bigotry of Rev. Ray Drennan and Frank Greene et al, and various other U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy. I dare say that Montreal Unitarian U*Us have lent a whole new meaning to the term "police harassment" with *their" repeated harassment of the Montreal police force with their phone calls, letters, depositions and other communications demanding that the police do something to force an end to my perfectly legal peaceful public protest against their big fat U*U "witch hunt" and other U*U injustices and abuses.
What is the difference between "frenzies" anytime someone has "a recovered memory" of "satanic ritual abuse" and big fat U*U "frenzies" caused by intolerant and malicious Montreal Unitarian U*Us spreading slanderous lies that Creation Day is a "cult" of the "manipulative and secretive" Solar Temple variety? Not much as far as a can see. . . I could even reasonably argue that, given the choice, most people would prefer to be *survivors* of "satanic ritual abuse" than non-survivors of a Solar Temple cult style ritual suicide/murder. . . N'est-ce pas U*Us? How many times do I have to say that falsely and maliciously accusing someone of belonging to, or trying to start, a dangerous Solar Temple style cult is the 20th century (now 21st century) equivalent of accusing someone of belonging to a coven of witches, or indeed an outright Satanic group, before U*Us finally *get* that I am in fact being subjected to what may be very justifiably described as a "witch-hunt" that was initially perpetrated by Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene and other anti-religious "fundamentalist atheist" "Humanist" U*Us, but has been perpetuated for over a decade now by the Board and congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal who not only did nothing to responsibly put an end to that "fundamentalist atheist" witch-hunt against me, but escalated it, aggravated it, expanded it and prolonged it with their grossly negligent, effectively complicit, and unjustly punitive responses to my formal complaints arising from Rev. Ray Drennan's initial intolerant and abusive attack on me? The legal harassment and police harassment that I have been subjected to by Montreal Unitarian U*Us since I began my peaceful public protest against the "witch hunt" that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, and other Montreal U*Us started in the mid-1990s forms part and parcel of that escalated, aggravated, and expanded Unitarian*Universalist "witch hunt" AFA*I*AC.
But we are not done with pagan U*U Joel Monka (who may or may not self-identify as a "witch" himself) or "witch hunting" Unitarian*Universalists just yet because, as my blog title suggests, Joel Monka himself seems to have chosen the dubious U*U fate of becoming a knowing and willful participant in the Unitarian*Universalist witch-hunt against me. In a blog post titled 'Police probe "pagan" attacks on church' Joel Monka said the following -
The strangest thing about this story is that it comes from Scotland! Scotland? I mean, a psycho with an obsession about God's eye sending notes to a church for years about unrectified wrongs... that's just so Canadian!
Update
No, there's been no further news from Scotland that I'm aware of; this is an update about the post itself. I've received private comment about my oblique reference to Vancouver based church protester Kevin Annett - and now I'm told some other nutcase is claiming I was talking about him. It seems hard to credit- are there really people so starved for attention, with egos so vast that they claim any reference to a psycho must be aimed at them???
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So just who was that alleged Canadian "psycho" with "an obsession about God's eye sending notes to a church for years about unrectified wrongs" that Joel Monka talking about in this blog post? Joel Monka tries to *pretend* that he was talking about "Vancouver based church protester Kevin Annett" in his "update" but I am confident that most people of intelligence and conscience know perfectly well that Joel Monka's insulting and defamatory inU*Uendo was aimed very directly at yours truly. The last time I checked "God's eye" does not play a role in Kevin Annett's church protests. There is not any evidence that I am aware of which remotely suggests that Kevin Annett has any "obsession" with God's eye but everybody knows that intolerant U*Us have been accusing me of having an "obsession" with God's eye, to say nothing of an "obsession" with exposing and denouncing U*U injustices, abuses and hypocrisy, for quite some time now. Even if Joel Monka's initial blog post *really* was about Kevin Annett, which is a highly improbable "coincidence", Joel shoved his pagan U*U foot right down his throat with his disingenuous "update" in which he insinuates that I am a "nutcase" who is so "starved for attention" and with an ego "so vast" that I claimed that Joel Monka's reference to a Canadian "psycho" "with an obsession about God's eye sending notes to a church for years about unrectified wrongs" must be aimed at yours truly.
How many times have I said that falsely and maliciously labeling someone as "psychotic" or indeed "psycho" is the 20th century equivalent of accusing someone of being "possessed" by demons, or the Devil himself, not so long ago. . . to say nothing of here and now in some less civilized parts of the world than Canada and America? Sorry Joel but AFA*I*AC you joined that ever so exclusive club of Unitarian*Universalist witch-hunters when you posted your big fat U*U inU*Uendo in your 'Police probe 'pagan' attacks on church' blog post on March 6th of this year. I am confident that most people of intelligence and conscience will concur with that quite reasonable and rational assessment of your wild words there. . .
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