Some *Reflections* On Desmond Ravenstone's Dubious "Reflections" About The Emerson Avenger
An alternative title for this TEA blog post could have been -
'Does Desmond Ravenstone Have His Head Up His U*U Or What?'
but I decided to be a bit more polite aka a bit less "deliberately rude and offensive" for now anyway. . .
In a blog post titled 'Well, It Was Bound to Happen...' on his Ravenstone's Reflections blog Mr. U*U BDSM Desmond Ravenstone has the following to say about The Emerson Avenger -
:My reason for suggesting this (i.e. suggesting that I suffer from Asperger's Disorder) is not to belittle or attack him. It is to try to help, just as many folks diagnosed with Asperger's as adults have found it helpful in their lives. And my reason for making it a condition for further discussion is that I don't see the point of engaging in an endless exchange with someone who is not willing to work on how they interact with others.
Where does Desmond Ravenstone get the idea that I am not willing to work on how I interact with others? If anyone is obstinately unwilling to work on how they interact with others it is the intolerant and abusive Unitarian*Universalists, including too many U*U clergy and UUA officials, who have repeatedly proven that *they* are far from willing to work on how they interact with your's truly, to say nothing of various *others* who they have harmed with their intolerant and abusive, or otherwise harmful and damaging, "interactions". My ongoing protest against diverse U*U injustices, abuses, and hypocrisy has *everything* to do with the fact that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, the Board and congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal, two UUA Presidents namely President John Buehrens and President Bill Sinkford, the UUA Board of Trustees, various UUA administrators such as Rev. Diane Miller, Rev. Dr. Tracey Robinson-Harris and Rev. Beth Miller, and the UUA's very aptly named Ministerial *Fellowship* Committee along with numerous other individual U*Us U*U World-wide who I won't even bother to name here have ALL obstinately refused to work on how they interact with me and other people they have harmed in various ways.
:But, he does not see it that way. He sees it as yet another "attack", and has said as much on his blog. My only reason for responding here is because of how he has portrayed things.
Desmond Ravenstone's *real* reason for responding to what I said about him on his own blog, rather than responding on my blog post that spoke about his foolish decision to "diagnose" me with Asperger's Syndrome, is that he can misrepresent what I said about him without being called on it, because he will almost certainly "moderate" aka censor and suppress my attempts to respond to him on his blog and correct his misrepresentation of the facts. The fact of the matter is that I never characterized Desmond Ravenstone's dubious "diagnosis" of me as an "attack". In fact I even freely and publicly acknowledged in a follow-up comment that, "as far as such U*U "diagnoses" of mental illness or mental disability go. . . it is one of the least harmful and damaging ones, which does not mean to say that it is not harmful and damaging at all."
:UPDATE 7/14/09
:Recently, two developments have been brought to my attention regarding this individual -- both disturbing.
:The first is that, in response to comments from members of the Asperger's community, this fellow has openly admitted that he is, in his own words, "deliberately rude and offensive" towards various UUs.
ROTFLMU*UO! Yet more evidence that Desmond Ravenstone failed to follow his own good advice about having "the responsibility to make sure one has the facts straight" before speaking one's mind. . .
I have been saying for years now that I reserve the right to respond to insulting and defamatory, "rude and offensive", or otherwise verbally abusive Unitarian*Universalists with some "deliberately rude and offensive" words of my own. More often than not I do so by making these "deliberately rude and offensive" U*Us, who include U*U clergy like Rev. Ray Drennan, Rev. Victoria Weinstein, and Rev. Cynthia P. Cain just for starters. . . chow down on their very own insulting and defamatory, "deliberately rude and offensive", or otherwise verbally abusive words with my "Eat Your Words" Diet.
:The second is that, several months before my private speculation that he might have Asperger's, he publicly did his own "amateur diagnosis" of someone else, as an outright attack.
Desmond Ravenstone's "diagnosis" of me went well beyond mere "speculation". His email made it clear that he was quite convinced that I suffer from Asperger Syndrome and he refused to engage in "conversation" with me unless I complied with his demand that I "get evaluated" by "a specialist in Asperger's" and send him the results of that evaluation care of the Arlington Street Unitarian Church in Boston. That is the height of arrogance, and closely parallels Rev. Ray Drennan's refusal to help ensure that my claimed revelatory religious experience was properly investigated by the Unitarian*Universalist religious community until I obtained what might be described as a certificate of sanity from a psychiatrist or psychologist. I would not have objected to a simple suggestion that I *might* be suffering from Asperger's. It was Desmond Ravenstone's arrogant coersive *demand* that I "get evaluated" by a "specialist in Asperger's" that I object to.
As far as my own alleged "amateur diagnosis" of someone else, "as an outright attack" goes perhaps Desmond Ravenstone would care to present his evidence supporting that allegation. . .
:This changes the entire picture. Asperger's or no, we are dealing with an individual who is blatantly malicious and hypocritical, and who is so desperate for attention that he will say and do anything to get it.
ROTFLMU*UO again! How does my long ago publicly acknowledged policy of reserving the right to respond to insulting and defamatory, "deliberately rude and offensive", or otherwise verbally abusive Unitarian*Universalists, including "less than excellent" U*U ministers with some "deliberately rude and offensive" words of my own, often just parroting or parodying of their own rude and offensive words with a heaping helping of my U*U World-famous "Eat Your Words Diet", make me any more "blatantly malicious" than the rude and offensive, and indeed *blatantly malicious* U*Us who I am criticizing Desmond? Do tell. . . How am I in any way "hypocritical" when I have repeatedly warned verbally abusive U*Us that I reserve the right to return abuse for abuse when I feel that it is warranted to do so?
:Failing to perceive how you harm others is one thing. Failing to care about it is quite another.
You are a barrel of laughs Desmond! This whole "war of words" that has lasted for more than thirteen "less than lucky" years for U*Us has everything to do with the well documented fact that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, the Board and congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal, UUA President John Buehrens and UUA President Bill Sinkford, the UUA Board of Trustees, various UUA administrators, and the UUA's very aptly named Ministerial *Fellowship* Committee, along with numerous other individual Unitarian*Universalist U*Us U*U World-wide apparently, indeed quite evidently. . . DO NOT CARE aka do not give a rat's ass about how they have seriously harmed me and a good number of other people who they have seriously harmed in various ways. In fact, *you* would appear to have chosen the rather dubious, to say nothing of shameful, fate of joining that *exclusive* U*U "club" Desmond. . .
Now do us all a favor Desmond Ravenstone aka Mr. U*U BDSM and please, please, ple-a-a-a-se. . . stop using your big fat U*U head for a butt*plug. . .
'Does Desmond Ravenstone Have His Head Up His U*U Or What?'
but I decided to be a bit more polite aka a bit less "deliberately rude and offensive" for now anyway. . .
In a blog post titled 'Well, It Was Bound to Happen...' on his Ravenstone's Reflections blog Mr. U*U BDSM Desmond Ravenstone has the following to say about The Emerson Avenger -
:My reason for suggesting this (i.e. suggesting that I suffer from Asperger's Disorder) is not to belittle or attack him. It is to try to help, just as many folks diagnosed with Asperger's as adults have found it helpful in their lives. And my reason for making it a condition for further discussion is that I don't see the point of engaging in an endless exchange with someone who is not willing to work on how they interact with others.
Where does Desmond Ravenstone get the idea that I am not willing to work on how I interact with others? If anyone is obstinately unwilling to work on how they interact with others it is the intolerant and abusive Unitarian*Universalists, including too many U*U clergy and UUA officials, who have repeatedly proven that *they* are far from willing to work on how they interact with your's truly, to say nothing of various *others* who they have harmed with their intolerant and abusive, or otherwise harmful and damaging, "interactions". My ongoing protest against diverse U*U injustices, abuses, and hypocrisy has *everything* to do with the fact that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, the Board and congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal, two UUA Presidents namely President John Buehrens and President Bill Sinkford, the UUA Board of Trustees, various UUA administrators such as Rev. Diane Miller, Rev. Dr. Tracey Robinson-Harris and Rev. Beth Miller, and the UUA's very aptly named Ministerial *Fellowship* Committee along with numerous other individual U*Us U*U World-wide who I won't even bother to name here have ALL obstinately refused to work on how they interact with me and other people they have harmed in various ways.
:But, he does not see it that way. He sees it as yet another "attack", and has said as much on his blog. My only reason for responding here is because of how he has portrayed things.
Desmond Ravenstone's *real* reason for responding to what I said about him on his own blog, rather than responding on my blog post that spoke about his foolish decision to "diagnose" me with Asperger's Syndrome, is that he can misrepresent what I said about him without being called on it, because he will almost certainly "moderate" aka censor and suppress my attempts to respond to him on his blog and correct his misrepresentation of the facts. The fact of the matter is that I never characterized Desmond Ravenstone's dubious "diagnosis" of me as an "attack". In fact I even freely and publicly acknowledged in a follow-up comment that, "as far as such U*U "diagnoses" of mental illness or mental disability go. . . it is one of the least harmful and damaging ones, which does not mean to say that it is not harmful and damaging at all."
:UPDATE 7/14/09
:Recently, two developments have been brought to my attention regarding this individual -- both disturbing.
:The first is that, in response to comments from members of the Asperger's community, this fellow has openly admitted that he is, in his own words, "deliberately rude and offensive" towards various UUs.
ROTFLMU*UO! Yet more evidence that Desmond Ravenstone failed to follow his own good advice about having "the responsibility to make sure one has the facts straight" before speaking one's mind. . .
I have been saying for years now that I reserve the right to respond to insulting and defamatory, "rude and offensive", or otherwise verbally abusive Unitarian*Universalists with some "deliberately rude and offensive" words of my own. More often than not I do so by making these "deliberately rude and offensive" U*Us, who include U*U clergy like Rev. Ray Drennan, Rev. Victoria Weinstein, and Rev. Cynthia P. Cain just for starters. . . chow down on their very own insulting and defamatory, "deliberately rude and offensive", or otherwise verbally abusive words with my "Eat Your Words" Diet.
:The second is that, several months before my private speculation that he might have Asperger's, he publicly did his own "amateur diagnosis" of someone else, as an outright attack.
Desmond Ravenstone's "diagnosis" of me went well beyond mere "speculation". His email made it clear that he was quite convinced that I suffer from Asperger Syndrome and he refused to engage in "conversation" with me unless I complied with his demand that I "get evaluated" by "a specialist in Asperger's" and send him the results of that evaluation care of the Arlington Street Unitarian Church in Boston. That is the height of arrogance, and closely parallels Rev. Ray Drennan's refusal to help ensure that my claimed revelatory religious experience was properly investigated by the Unitarian*Universalist religious community until I obtained what might be described as a certificate of sanity from a psychiatrist or psychologist. I would not have objected to a simple suggestion that I *might* be suffering from Asperger's. It was Desmond Ravenstone's arrogant coersive *demand* that I "get evaluated" by a "specialist in Asperger's" that I object to.
As far as my own alleged "amateur diagnosis" of someone else, "as an outright attack" goes perhaps Desmond Ravenstone would care to present his evidence supporting that allegation. . .
:This changes the entire picture. Asperger's or no, we are dealing with an individual who is blatantly malicious and hypocritical, and who is so desperate for attention that he will say and do anything to get it.
ROTFLMU*UO again! How does my long ago publicly acknowledged policy of reserving the right to respond to insulting and defamatory, "deliberately rude and offensive", or otherwise verbally abusive Unitarian*Universalists, including "less than excellent" U*U ministers with some "deliberately rude and offensive" words of my own, often just parroting or parodying of their own rude and offensive words with a heaping helping of my U*U World-famous "Eat Your Words Diet", make me any more "blatantly malicious" than the rude and offensive, and indeed *blatantly malicious* U*Us who I am criticizing Desmond? Do tell. . . How am I in any way "hypocritical" when I have repeatedly warned verbally abusive U*Us that I reserve the right to return abuse for abuse when I feel that it is warranted to do so?
:Failing to perceive how you harm others is one thing. Failing to care about it is quite another.
You are a barrel of laughs Desmond! This whole "war of words" that has lasted for more than thirteen "less than lucky" years for U*Us has everything to do with the well documented fact that Rev. Ray Drennan, Frank Greene, the Board and congregation of the Unitarian Church of Montreal, UUA President John Buehrens and UUA President Bill Sinkford, the UUA Board of Trustees, various UUA administrators, and the UUA's very aptly named Ministerial *Fellowship* Committee, along with numerous other individual Unitarian*Universalist U*Us U*U World-wide apparently, indeed quite evidently. . . DO NOT CARE aka do not give a rat's ass about how they have seriously harmed me and a good number of other people who they have seriously harmed in various ways. In fact, *you* would appear to have chosen the rather dubious, to say nothing of shameful, fate of joining that *exclusive* U*U "club" Desmond. . .
Now do us all a favor Desmond Ravenstone aka Mr. U*U BDSM and please, please, ple-a-a-a-se. . . stop using your big fat U*U head for a butt*plug. . .
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